[POLL] Millionaire's Tax: To Expire or Not To Expire
Local officials and organizations will rally in White Plains Tuesday calling for an extension of the "millionaire's tax." Take our poll and tell us what you think about the millionaire's tax in the comments at the bottom of the page.
Local elected officials and organizations will rally in White Plains today to support the extension of the “millionaire’s tax.”
The event—sponsored by the Working Families Party, Alliance for Quality Education, Westchester For Change, Community Voices Heard, WESPAC, AFL-CIO Westchester/Putnam Central Labor Body, CWA, NYSUT and 99NewYork—will start at 3 p.m., in front of the Westchester County Office Building, at 148 Martine Ave.
Local officials attending the event include Westchester County Legislator Judith Meyers, Yonkers City Councilman Michael Sabatino and Ossining Highway Superintendent Michael O’Conner.
The "millionaire's tax," which took effect in 2009, imposes a surcharge on singles who make more than $200,000 and joint filers who make more than $300,000. Click here to read more on the millionaire’s tax.
“We're calling on Albany to make sure the solutions they enact measure up to the size of the job crisis that we face,” said Pat Welsh, chairman of the Westchester-Putnam Working Families Party. “The tax reform package must raise at least $5 billion that will disappear from the sunset of the current millionaires' tax to allow New York to reverse painful cuts, provide property tax relief and invest in jobs and growth for our future."
Rally organizers say that everyone in society needs to pay their fair share and that the rich cand do without $5 billion in tax breaks. According to Huffington Post, a Congressional Budget Office report shows that income for the richest 1 percent of Americans grew by 275 percent between 1979 and 2007—compared with a rate of growth of just fewer than 40 percent for most of the middle class. Last year, the median annual income for U.S. workers was $26,364—meaning that 50 percent of Americans who earn a paycheck make less than that, Huffington Post reports.
Cuomo admits, in an Op-Ed piece, that the New York’s permanent tax code is unjust—as individuals making $20,000 pay the same tax rate as those making $20 million. However, he says the millionaire’s tax failed to shift the burden to the super wealthy, and alleviate financial burdens for the middle class since it raised taxes on those who make $200,000, which he says are “hardly millionaires.”
Cuomo’s says more money needs to be injected back into the economy with tax credits that incentivize private sector job growth.
“I would create multiple brackets and rates increasing on a graduated basis throughout and indexed to inflation,” said Cuomo. “I would add more income brackets for the middle income, and add high end brackets. The actual rate span should be several points from low to high.”
According to Huffington Post, a Spectrem Group survey says that 68 percent of millionaires—people with investments of $1 million or more—support raising taxes on people who earn $1 million or more in income as reported by the Wall Street Journal.
“It's encouraging to see the Governor and the Legislature talk about real reforms to make our tax code fairer and allow the state to invest in jobs and growth for the future,” said Welsh. “We haven't seen the details yet, but we believe the solutions must meet the scale of the jobs crisis. Many people think that government is taken over by the 1 percent, Albany has a chance to prove that's not so.”
There are also those who are fully against raising taxes on the rich. According to the New York Times, state Conservative Party Chair Michael R. Long said raising taxes “send the wrong signals to those who must live with the government’s decision to take more of their hard-earned paycheck to pay for the special interest of select clientele.”
Heather Briccetti, acting president of the Business Council of New York State, told the New York Times that the State should foster an “improved business climate," not push new taxes, and create a "pro-business state.”
Click here for an Op-Ed in the New York Post against the tax.
What do you think?
- Should the State continue or expire the millionaire’s tax? Why or why not?
- What do you think of Cuomo’s proposal?
- How do you think the State should be raising money?
- What should the State spend the funds on?
Take our poll and tell us in the comments.
michaelkane
5:06 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
This has been canceled! Albany has heard Us!
Aidan
5:16 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Pitting one segment of society against another does nothing but tear that society apart.
TTH
8:51 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
This is how Obama and the dems win elections.
John Galt
7:51 am on Friday, December 9, 2011
When the very wealthy insist that they are the ones driving prosperity (as if there were any) and that they deserve an extremely disproportionate share of wealth while the middle class is going under, they are the ones who have declared "class war" and pitted themselves against everyone else.
Steve Korn
9:29 pm on Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Penny of the additional tax will not be collected
Enough millionnaires and billionaires will leave the state to CT and FL...to negate whatever additional revenue NY State expects
Dumb move chasing away people who pay most of the bills.
Feels good (someone else pays), but is really self-defeating.
Sharon Deer
10:24 am on Wednesday, December 7, 2011
Apparently you're confused. The millionaire surcharge already exists, so anyone who was going to leave already left. (Very few moved because of it, I suspect.) The original issue was about continuing it, but Cuomo has shifted to adding more tax brackets instead.
Billy
11:20 am on Wednesday, December 7, 2011
Not really Sharon, the current millionaire's tax was supposed to be temporary and not permanent like Cuomo is now proposing.
Steve's right, the people who earn these amounts can easily move around from 1 high tax jurisdiction to another low tax jurisdiction.
And Michael, be careful the millionaire's tax (actually starting at income of $200,000) will sunset on 12/31/11 but Cuomo is looking to make new tax brakets at the top so the tax in effect will stay. And why are there 4 brackets under $20,000? They should be able to pay the same 6-7% like the rest of us.
Bob Zahm
1:18 pm on Friday, December 9, 2011
Some may leave but many will choose to stay because the "cost of change" (moving kids and schools; securing and moving to a new house; disrupting daily rituals; etc) is higher than the dollar tax savings. Think about why a family chooses to stay in NY in a high cost school district but yet chooses to send their kids to a private school. Happens all the time. Makes little economic sense. But people (who can afford it / figure out how to afford it) do it all the time because their is value / benefit they receive from staying despite the higher tax rate.
Steve Korn
4:09 pm on Friday, December 9, 2011
To Bob Zahm, it only takes a small percentage of the rich to leave to negate all the extra revenue anticipated. Because NYS loses not only the surcharge revenue but the base taxes as well
So I believe this is a false accomplishment, and will prove to be a bust from revenue perspective. Expect to hear "brought in less revenue than expected..."
And NY state will return to its status as among the third highest income taxes in the Country, and #1 if you happen to live in NYC. Dumb move that keeps new high income people from moving in, and short-sighted. IMHO
Dina Sciortino
10:07 am on Thursday, December 8, 2011
This is the new tax rates according to Assemblyman Robert Castelli...discuss:
Income Level: $40,000 to $150,000; Old Rate: 6.85%; New Rate: 6.45%
Income Level: $150,000 to $300,000; Old Rate: 6.85%; New Rate: 6.65%
Income Level: $300,000 to $2 million; Old Rate: 7.85% - 8.97%; New Rate: 6.85%
Income Level: Over $2 million; Old Rate: 8.97%; New Rate: 8.82%
SRT
7:57 am on Friday, December 9, 2011
OMG!!!!!!
The injustice of it all!!!
Clearly, Cuomo is just another radical Marxist masquerading as a centrist.
The injustice of somebody making $5,000,000, having to pay 2.4% more tax than someone making $40,000 certainly should not take place in a country founded on fairness.
Dina Sciortino
10:23 am on Thursday, December 8, 2011
This $5 billion dollar millionaire’s tax will expire. Under the new tax structure everyone will pay a lower tax rate. This structure will bring in $1.9 billion. There are also other provisions included in the legislation like the elimination of the MTA tax for some groups. Check out this New York Times article for more information http://patch.com/bvaDz or Castelli's site for more information http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/Robert-J-Castelli/
Bob Zahm
1:03 pm on Friday, December 9, 2011
Dina - "Everyone will pay a lower tax rate" - a lower tax rate than paid in each year of the surcharge. However, everyone earning more than $2million will pay more than they would have before the surcharge was put in place. Which is one of the real benchmarks. Of course, if you make less than $2million, your marginal tax rate will decrease a little versus the pre-surcharge days or, at worst, stay the same. So Cuomo has gone back on his promise (never said "Read my lips", but it sure feels like he's pulled a Bush Sr.). But only for people with more than $2million in income.
Jerry Brown
9:55 pm on Thursday, December 8, 2011
IT COST MONEY TO MOVE THAT SOMEONE GETS PAID AND PUTS THOSE DOLLARS BACK IN THE PUBLIC HANDS INSTEAD OF THE POCKETS OF THE WEALTHY ,IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW IT GET'S OUT THERE AS LONG AS IT DOES .THINK ABOUT THAT???
Aidan
8:13 am on Friday, December 9, 2011
I'm thinkin' ... but what you say ain't computin'.
Jill Gertz
10:20 am on Friday, December 9, 2011
The middle class is being squeezed because more and more people want more and more services. Health-care goes though the roof because politicians keep mandating more and more coverage to get votes. Lawyers force higher coverage due to their parasitic suits. Hospitals and social services are forced to pay for millions of illegals and their children. Same problem with the schools - as more and more kids need translators, special education. Then all the municipal, hospital and teachers unions want their members to be paid like doctors and lawyers. They want to work 25 years and get paid for 25+ after retiring.
None of this is the fault of "the rich" who are being scapegoated for a nation of people degenerating into needy sad sacks who want a cradle to grave nanny state more than freedom and independence. The rich already pay most of the taxes and half the country pays none. The Dems/liberals own Wall Street (Obama got most of WS doantions) and the schools, and they plunder the treasury to buy votes. They obviously don't care if it break the bank, and they dont care about ruining national defense, health-care, relations with allies etc. I would be embarrassed to be friends with anyone with a "blame the rich" attitude. The rich could give up all their money tomorrow and it wont fix the debt problem. You need growth and Obama is intentionally blocking that.
Billy
1:12 pm on Friday, December 9, 2011
Well said.
Steve Korn
7:47 pm on Friday, December 9, 2011
How to vote for Jill?
Spot on!
Silvia
10:12 pm on Friday, December 9, 2011
So true.
Bob Zahm
1:09 pm on Friday, December 9, 2011
The real issue is why NY "needs" to spend some much more than other states. Look at Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Illinois with their FLAT income tax rates of 4.35%; 3.07%; and 5% respectively. Michigan is in much worse shape than NY and Illinois has faced much worse deficits than NY. Yet each of these states is able to get by with less income than NY. Why? Because NY is inefficient? Because NY tries to do too much? There's plenty of room to cut in NY before increasing taxes.
BG7
3:58 pm on Friday, December 9, 2011
The Welfare Families Party has been labelling anyone earning $200K as "millionaires" for years now. At least Cuomo recognizes the difference and has proceeded accordingly.