Sleepy Hollow Agrees to Quinoy Settlement
An agreement was made to provide Quinoy back pay in exchange for his immediate resignation.
The Village of Sleepy Hollow has agreed to a settlement with former police detective Jose Quinoy.
Quinoy was charged and acquitted of a number of federal charges that claimed he abused his position as a police officer during two separate incidents in 2006. The Village of Sleepy Hollow had filed disciplinary charges against the officer following the federal indictment, but the agreement approved Tuesday night by the Board of Trustees ends all legal actions against Quinoy.
"It's good for us to get this behind us, and by us I mean the village, the police department and anyone else who is involved in this," Sleepy Hollow Mayor Ken Wray said. "Now we are able to move forward."
Quinoy's attorney, Andrew Quinn, was unable to respond to a call placed late Tuesday night.
According the the resolution approved on Tuesday night, the Village wished to settle to put an end to "the uncertainties, costs and risks of continued litigation."
According to the settlement worked out between the village and Quinoy's representatives, Quinoy was reinstated to the police force but has resigned effective May 31, 2011. In the agreement, he releases the Village and any personnel from future claims.
The board reinstated Quinoy from the date he was placed on unpaid suspension – April 29, 2009. That allows Quinoy to receive back pay for the two years he was absent from the force, although Village officials declined to comment on the matter.
According to the website seethroughny.net, Quinoy was making about $133,000 a year in salary as a detective with the Sleepy Hollow Police Department.
Apparently, Quinoy also agreed to plead guilty to some of the disciplinary charges against him, but those specific charges were not made public and officials would not comment on them.
Quinoy was suspended from the Sleepy Hollow Police Department on April 29, 2009 without pay after he was indicted on a number of federal charges. In July 2010, a White Plains federal court jury found Quinoy not guilty on two federal indictments — witness tampering and violating the civil rights of Luis Vilches in a 2006 stun gun incident.
The jury could not reach a unanimous verdict on a third charge. That charge involved allegations Quinoy violated the civil rights of Mario Gomez when, in a separate incident in front of Village Hall on October 2006, he allegedly kicked and punched Gomez after he was handcuffed. That charge was later thrown out by Federal prosecutors.
Quinoy then filed a lawsuit against the Village of Sleepy Hollow on November 24, 2010, seeking monetary damages due to his "wrongful arrest and malicious prosecution." The village started a disciplinary hearing against Quinoy on February 8, 2011, after his federal trial concluded.
The series of disciplinary hearings in Sleepy Hollow never formally got underway due to Quinn's assertion that the board of trustees had filed charges against Quinoy too late. The law that governs police disciplinary hearings in Westchester villages and towns, known as 5711-q, specifically states that "charges shall not be brought more than ninety days after the time when the facts upon which such charges are based are known to such board of trustees or municipal board." The village-level charges brought against Quinoy were filed in 2009 and 2010, three years after the alleged incidents occurred.
Sleepy Hollow Police Chief Gregory Camp said the only matter that remained was to make sure any of Quinoy's property was returned to him.
"Both sides are happy with it, so we're just trying to move forward now," Camp said.
Wonderboy
10:16 pm on Tuesday, June 14, 2011
I just wonder if he gets a pension?
Jim Whalen
7:40 am on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
After 5 years on the job, he is eligible to receive ordinary retirement benefits at age 65, commensurate with his actual time served (including the 2 years lost, as he was reinstated by the village.
In a recent situation where an individual was brought up on charges, the Village offered a buy-out, (I believe a years salary) which gets added to the retirement total for that year. Then they receive an average of the 3 most recent years. Thus, a bonus of $35,000.00 to $50,000.00 a year for life. Everyone should get brought up on charges there when time to retire...
Robert Solari
10:29 pm on Tuesday, June 14, 2011
I'm Glad it's over and now we can move forward. I hope for his family's sake that he does get to keep his pension. In the long run nobody wins.
David
8:10 am on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
Does anyone else wonder about Mr. Quinoy's salary of $133,000? Did he get an advanced degree in criminology to merit that, or is it the going rate for local village detectives?
Now, after only five years of service, and being let go after the incident described in the article, he will get about $800,000 in pension. (I used 20 years after he's 65, and $40,000 per year). Do you know who funds that? The taxpayers!
Sean Roach
8:18 am on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
According to the seethroughny.net website, other detectives are making about that.
Hudson View
8:49 am on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
Glad to see this is behind everyone. Finally the Board did something that makes a little bit of sense.
Police Officers throughout the County are making almost $200,000.00 a year. This Village isn't paying as much as other areas are. Lets sit back and see what our current detectives make at the end of the fiscal year.
Does anyone know who the Youth/School resource officer is for Sleepy Hollow? Sean, could you find out?
Pete Pablo
9:12 am on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
They don't have an active school resource officer. Also, Quinoy would have to have 20 years of service in order to receive a pension now, but after 55 he is eligible for something if he had at least 10 years vested.
Pete Pablo
9:17 am on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
$266,000 back pay, after the IRS is done taking their share, the poor guy is left with enough to pay his credit cards if he is lucky.
Sammy Smith
9:51 am on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
This finally puts and end to the Warren era of the police department.
OverTaxed - Fed up with spending
4:11 pm on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
I'd like to get a job on the Sleepy Hollow force. Then be a teacher. As it is now, I have to move, I cant pay my taxes this year.
Sigh.
And no one wants to buy my house, that I spent $200,000 upgrading to make work for mcCarthy.
Hudson View
5:17 pm on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
Maybe in your next life. We can't blame the Officers if they make more money than the average profession. They did choose to save lives, put their lives on the line, work all year round at all times of hours, holidays, weekends, and we didnt. It's unfortunate that being a teacher, you cant afford to live , but you chose that life the same way I chose my career. I make not make what the officers make, but I love my weekends off, and holidays with family.
Hudson View
5:19 pm on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
* I may not make what officers make, but I love my weekends off and holidays with family
Robert Solari
6:04 pm on Wednesday, June 15, 2011
Its not what you make. It's what you do as a profession that counts in the long run. Ive made enough money in the last 25 years to last a life time for some people. But if your inlaw enforcement it should be amount what you can do to help others. I would have went into the Marines 25 years old if it wasn't for my father. And I would have been a cop if it wasn't for him. O well
concernedaboutthehallow
7:47 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Wow this about sums up what a big part of what is wrong with this community....public workers salaries way too high....the 133K doesn't include OT which I am sure he made a ton of and then the ridiculous unsustainable benefits on top of it......unreal. And to comment of putting life on the line? Really??? Maybe in the Bronx or Brooklyn but sorry no not here in Westchester, days are filled with just driving around or sitting in remote spot talking with other bored officer with many stops to dunkin donunts in btw......then we just pay them out even when they are in the wrong...nuts
No worries let's just raise taxes more to cover the ineptitude.....truly amazing
Hudson View
8:05 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
I have family members who are in law enforcement, and I dont believe that everything the officers in the world do is right. We wouldnt be complaining about salaries if the economy was great. No one noticed how much officers made, untill the white collar community began losing their jobs. As far as not putting your life on the line in westchester, that is untrue. There are many dangerous issues that even occur in Sleepy Hollow. They are just not publicized.
concernedaboutthehallow
8:40 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
They are overpaid and we can't afford it anymore(no just them but entire public sector) you shouldn't down play the private sector white coller we are actually the ones paying the bills around here last time I checked. Life in private sector is tough 60 hours a week in office(NO OT) then still need to be on after you leave on blackberry and weekends you can be fired in a second and are always worried about that we pay for our benefits we don't get pensions...public sector has no idea what it is like and 90% wouldn't last a month. Then we come home exhausted and see this crap and every increasing taxes because system is completely broken and towns are incompetant. Like jack nickelson in a few good men I wish you would just say thank you but instead I get attacked for having the balls to call out the obvious wrongs that are occuring....not just here but entire county. It's shameful really...
Just Curious
1:51 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Sean - you are absolutely correct. I second everything Sean MCGuigan just said. 80% of the police would not be hired in the private sector because they are not smart enough. Period. And there is absolutely no reason (ther than corrupt BS union deals) that public sector workers should be making this much money unless they are generating their own revenue. I wouldn't give a crap how much they made if it wasn't coming from me, the taxpayer. Go out and write thousands of legitimate tickets, make legitimate arrests leading to millions in fines, and go ahead and keep most of it, then you earned it. Stop collecting insane amount of fake overtime to push already high salaries higher on the backs of taxpayers.
Willie Lester
9:02 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
The bankers ( white collar) workers took this country to it's knees. They were rewarded with huge bailouts and six and seven figure bonus. Please don't cry to me about your blackberry, 60 hour weeks and not getting pensions. Like public workers, this is the field of work you have choosen. Put on your big boy pants, belly up to the bar and stop the crying.
John
9:40 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
I am a White collar Banker, and yes I went to the Yankee's game last night. It was quite a wonderful evening after all... I left the black berry home. Why do I type this? I am just bragging I guess.
Willie Lester
9:15 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Are you crying when your vendors or clients take you to the Yankee games and park your butt in the expensive seats? How about the nice dinners, private boxes at the Garden? Nice seats for concerts. let's not forget those nice juciy bonuses for all your hard work. Last I heard wall street was back to record size bonuses.
Hudson View
9:30 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Willie, very well said.
concernedaboutthehallow
9:32 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
I don't work on wall street idiot and neither do the vast majority you are clueless to what really goes on....I don't know why I waste my energy here as nothing will ever change that is why I am pretty sure I will be out of year in not to distant future Dallas no state tax real estate taxes a tenth of what we pay and actually more and better services. How is that possible???? Maybe because they run their towns efficiently. Broken system Willie really no debating it.
Moe Green
10:17 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Hey Willie has to wash a lot of windows to make what cops in these towns make
Wonderboy
10:24 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
When what's happening in Greece starts here, I'd hate to be a cop.lol.... Where's my hair gel.lol
Mike
10:49 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Guess we just need to tax the rich again. You guys complain about taxes, but dont say anything about the major shift that went on in the Bush years that allowed the rich to stop paying their share. Why allow such a giveaway? Dont give me that trickle down nonsense either, none of it trickled down after bush cut taxes years ago. Everything just got worse and worse.
Mike
10:50 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Complaining about teachers and cops. You people should be ashamed. Brainwashed by Rush Limbaugh, that's what you are.
Willie Lester
11:11 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Have fun in Dallas... Don't let the door hit you on the way out... hey, I hear that don't have blackberrys there. By the way Dallas is a city... not a town
concernedaboutthehallow
11:13 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Mike you should educate yourself before spouting off bottom 50% pay nothing in taxes(actually get handed money) top 10 % pay something like 90% of the taxes what the hell are you talking about? I am done here not worth my breath if you don't see this is a completely broken unsustainable system you are beyond help. It will all come crashing down at some point I hope sooner rather than later
concernedaboutthehallow
11:34 am on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Willie will be glad to leave you behind.....just fyi not everyone works on wall street I know that is hard for you to comprehend in that little brain of yours. I used Dallas as an example only could have picked just about anywhere other than tri state area and CA.
Willie Lester
1:14 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Sean,
You had a choice to work in any profession you wanted to. You picked the private sector. It was your choice. Other people decide to work public sector jobs. Cops, fire, teachers, village, etc. All I ever heard about public sector jobs was , why in the world would you want to be a teacher, cop or village worker. You will never be able to survive on what they pay.
Now, when the economey tanks and private corporations are laying off, out sourcing and hiring people at 1980 wages, everyone starts getting on the public sector employees.
Let's face it, you and all the other private sector employess ( Except for the top 5 percent) were thrown under the bus by your greedy CEO'S .
So now you take out your anger on the public sector employees who were laughed at when wall street was riding the wave.
There is a kids story about the tortise and the hare. The private sector were the hare's looking for the big money fast. The public sector employees were the tortise. Slow and steady, more interested in security.
Like I said. put on your big boy pants and deal with it.
concernedaboutthehallow
1:30 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
You don't get it and never will problem is politicians keep and have kept giving unions everything they asked for to secure reelection what you know have is a completely out of whack system. It was always public sector made less but had security and good benefits and no one had a problem with it. Now that is not the case as average public sector employee actually makes more than private sector and still have gold plated benefits and security(you can't fire anyone as seen here) it is completely out of whack and again can't be sustained these are facts not my opinion. Do you not see that? Is that lost on you? Have you seen projections of what pension and health care are going to cost? If you did you would agree with me. Why can't they pay their fair share of bebefits and contribute to their retirements like the rest of the world? If they did I would be fine with bloated salaries. I know I am not only one who feels this way most actually do in my position just don't want to expose themselves. I speak the truth that is all if you want to bury your head in the sand that is your choice....but denyiny we have an issue is ridiculous
OverTaxed - Fed up with spending
2:01 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
One of the reasons I prefer the patch to other blogs is the more civil discussions. These people here are neighbors and colleagues.
There are valid points here. No one is saying that Police and Teachers don't deserve good pay and
great benefits. I believe main point here is that Public Sector jobs traditionally had slightly lower pay for stability and security.
Now the equation has changed with more public sector, consuming more of the pie, and the taxpayers/voters seemingly unable to reign in these expenditures.
I feel that I've worked very hard and been lucky enough to achieve success for my business and for my family. Its being 'redistributed' to people I didn't ask for. 60+% of my income goes in taxes and insurance. I will likely see nothing from Medicare or Social Security however these public employees are guaranteed from a different pool and will be able to retire somewhere cheap and sunny with great security.
The fact that someone here leaps to defend a rotten and convicted cop, who lets not forget, beat the crap out someone and lied repeatedly. Why is it that our prior chief was lousy, lazy and wrecked his department, then crashes his car, gets a very nice package to go away? What is so terrible about questioning why some Teachers get poor marks and lifetime benefits?
Why is it wrong to question taxpayer paid salary's and what is competitive and can you get someone to work for less?
Just Curious
2:10 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Willie - what is your obsession with men's pants?
The point is, tiny nano-municipalities like Sleepy Hollow can't afford village admin's, cops, emt's, tresurers, architects, teachers, etc all making over 100k salaries, which is way over the avgerage pay for those professions nation-wide. It's purely unsustainable. What will happen eventually, when taxpayers start "puttin on their big-boy pants" and revolting, is that all these self-entitled village workers are going to be laid off, or forced to make tons of contractual concessions, including salary cuts, less OT, less days off, more years worked before retirement, no more public funded pensions, larger contributions to their med plans, etc. The gravy train ride will end, and bizzarro salary world will cease to exist. So garbagemen, policemen, village architects be forewarned! Save your loot, don't buy that extra BMW (SHPD cop's favorite car) - this shineola will end.
Mike
3:24 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
I really wish you people would save your hostility for bank ceo's, insurance ceo's etc who are the ones who started this depression by screwing the people world over. But you've all bought into the Rush/hannity scripts and you believe what they want you to. It's just illustrated by the fact that you dont even know that emt's in this village arent even paid, they're volunteer. But you wouldn't want facts to get in your way, would you? I guess ignorance is an excuse.
Just Curious
2:34 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Overall police & Fire - salaries ONLY (not inlcuding benefits)-
$2,813,367.18
Officer Craig Kelly on his Facebook page quote:
Employers
SLEEPY HOLLOW POLICE DEPT.
Police Officer · Sleepy Hollow, New York
Best Job Ever!!!!!!!!!!
Gee, I wonder why he feels that way? No work and high pay makes SHPD a happy boy.
concernedaboutthehallow
3:10 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Good to see some fellow supporters(there are tons more who choose to be quiet for now) in fact vast majority who actually are paying the bulk of the taxes feel this way. We need to unite and stop this madness. People are feed up with taxes and are leaving this will continue unless real change happens.....
Just Curious
4:27 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
The real funny thing about Craig Kelly's "best job ever" comment, is that he only makes $60k per year!
Craig - if you think it's good now, wait 3 more years when we'll all be paying you $120k to sit in the Philispse manor Beach Club parking lot at 2am to take a nap.
Yea that's right people, I caught one of them doing that when I got off the last train from the city. The officer was so startled that he shone a spotlight on me, and got on his bullhorn to ask me what i was doing. I responded "going to my car," which was parked right in front of him (as I wondered what the hell it was that HE was doing there being shady).
Willie Lester
3:17 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Your right. Unions make hefty donations to politcal parties. So does big bussiness. Need I mention the Coke brothers?
If you think the health care system is out of whack because of public sector jobs think again. It's called insurance companies trying to make as much profit as they can. Have you ever had to deal with a health care provider over a life and death situation? The staff is trained to reject claims, make you put things in writing, lose it, have you start over again, send you to thier supervisor. All with the idea to make you get frustrated and forget the claim.
Again, it goes back to the banks bringing this country to it's knees. Wall street drying up. Corperations re-setting the bar and paying people what they did 20 years ago, except for the top two percent.
One last question.. Why wasan't anybody complaing about this the past 15 years?
Let's face it. the public sector is ctaching up to the private sector and none of you are happy about it.
concernedaboutthehallow
4:28 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Your are out of your mind Willie, let them pay for their benefits and let them kick in for their retirement and NO OT that is all I ask. I don't ask them to work as hard as private sector does or deal with anywhere near the stress they can still clock off at 3pm and do what ever it is these people do that is fine just not free bene's and pension plan that we can not afford.....sound reasonable? Why should I have to work probably till I am 70 so these clowns can retire at 55-60? What is wrong with the equation here? I am the one paying their salaries I should be the one who gets a say here no? Common sense no? You are hopeless Willie a lost cause. you probably rent so this is all meaningless to you anyway so you can spout off about standing up for the public sector if you did the heavy lifting of paying the ridiculous taxes we do there is no way you would feel this way. Now why don't you go and take a nap it's 4:30 your day has been done for over an hour now I am sure.
Just Curious
3:30 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Willie - "Public sector is catching up with the private sector and none of you are happy about it?" Yea, my local DPW & police are real innovators.
Avg salary SHPD was $112,000 per officer in 2010 - here's some avg salaries for other professions around the country:
Job
Administrative Assistant $33,752
Executive Assistant $46,323
Staff Accountant $43,872
Sr. Software Engineer / Developer / Programmer $92,507
Project Manager, Construction $70,660
Administrative / Office Manager $39,696
Attorney / Lawyer $76,610
Country: United States | Currency: USD | Updated: 6 Jun 2011 | Individuals Reporting: 655,912
Janice Landrum
9:36 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
"Around the country" or "national averages" aren' valid basis for comparison. You must consider housing costs and tax costs, because teachers and public employees all live locally, pay NY tax and property tax.
I'd be interested to see these figures for Westchester County.
Just Curious
4:13 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Or how about these National averages?
Police Officer
$55,000
Police Sergeant
$71,000
Homeland Security
$64,000
Nypd Police Cadet
$23,000
Reserve Police Officer
$22,000
Lateral Police Officer
$67,000
Police Recruit
$53,000
Campus Police Officer
$34,000
Police Officer Lateral
$70,000
Nsa Police Officer
$43,000
Transportation Officer Armed
$45,000
Corrections Captain
$68,000
Again, I'm not saying put these High School grads in the poor house, all I'm saying is let's tone it down a bit to save our taxes from shooting through the roof. SHPD avg officer salary (not counting chief) is well over 100k, which is more than the avg salary of officers of the nations top 10 cities.
I'm picking on the cops, but this goes for all village employees. When we can't have an after school program at Morse school that would cost all of $10-20k for the community's children, it's easy to see where we could make that up. Cap overtime for the village patrolmen and you'd save over $100k every single year. Now that's money we could use for children's programs, senior citizen club trips, fixing the damage Chief Warren did to the village car, you know, the essentials ;)
Willie Lester
4:34 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Sean my misguided blogger, I can assure you I pay more property taxes in one year then you do in three. Anytime you want to put up 5k on a bet, let me know. I will be happy to donate your money to a good charity. Now leave me alone, time to nap
concernedaboutthehallow
4:39 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Willie if that's true(doubtful but if so) then you probably have too much money and don't give a crap and can be "righteous" either way your arguments don't hold water. I am dealing in facts only not opinions. This can not continue as is the status quo is sustainable. Please go look at projections on bene's going into future? How on earth do you think we can pay for them?
Willie Lester
8:15 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Here's the deal. You bring a check for 5k made out to Sleepy Hollow open door along with your tax bills. I will bring a 5k check made out to any charitable orginazation, Including Tea Party, along with my tax bill. I will even by the first round.
And I do give a crap. But this country was built on the backs of our public sector. My money was made off the backs of these hard working people. Which I paid well and paid into the unions with no questions asked. I worked hard, paid my dues, treated my people well, never asked for bail out money.
I have turned my bussiness over to my family and hang around with the grandkids. I pay my taxes on time and contribute over six digits to charity every year.
Again, we all have choices we make and paths we take.
Just curious,, my offer is open to you,, double. I like Sean, he makes good points without going off the deep end. You on the other hand have a lot to learn.
concernedaboutthehallow
8:30 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Willie glad you can afford whatever tax bill comes your way without questioning the why's. Good for you really. I on other hand am a bit younger and would like to be able to retire at an age where I can still enjoy it. How about you subsidize my taxes for the 5K a year and I will shut up and go away? My points are valid I speak the truth it is a house of cards that is completely unsustainable. I just got on a train to head home for night....think any of our public services workers even worked one day like that? NO is answer certainly not without getting paid OT for it that is....Broken system nothing you can say will change that fact. This is wrong Willy plain and simple I hope you see that one day. I wish you well in all your success and hope one day I to will be in a position where I don't mind completely overpaying my taxes. Just want to be clear one more time I don't work on wall street I am not a banker who brought the country to it's knees according to you. Just an average joe trying to raise a family
Moe Green
11:31 pm on Thursday, June 16, 2011
Hey, why don't you two guys take your d!@#ks out and measure them..geesh. Your arguing apples and oranges. The police will aways be here like it or not. they will make good money like it or not you know why? Because people want them there. bottom line where esle are they going to call the cops because a dog is barking? or some spanish guy is playing his music loud on cortlandt st while he is drinking his beer?
The politicians know that eventually it will bankrupt the town but you know what they keep giving raises and they know it's a good way to get re- elected. they don't care about you or your house or your taxes.
John Doe
12:58 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
Overtaxed, just curious, and Sean. I looked into it for you. Westchester County will be giving the police exam in 2012. Here is your chance to get a piece of the pie. If you are ready, willing and able to go down town and deal with drug dealers, drug users, drunks, pimps, and heaven knows what else while trying not to get infected by TB, HEP, HIV or even bedbugs while making the streets safer for people like you when you get off your white collar train ride from 5th avenue to your million dollar house in the manor which no cop on your tax dollar salary can afford. Give me a break!
concernedaboutthehallow
8:37 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
John sorry just one more thing, is there even one example of an officer every getting any of the above diseases you listed, not just here but anywhere in westchester or even NYC? don't recall every seeing any but maybe I missed it, don't recall there ever being even any needed gun discharges either in my 13 years but again maybe I missed it. I am just saying.....
PS you and Willie and everyone else who I guess don't work in the city have this barazzo perception that we all are millionares and either work on wall street or 5th avenue(as you indicate) that's insane and just plain wrong. Not sure where you guys get this from but totally incorrect vast majority don't. In fact I would say the majority of those types don't live here they live in Scarsdale, Bronxville, Rye, Larchmont etc. You guys are way off base here.
Now I am done...peace out.
concernedaboutthehallow
7:44 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
John you would be surprised what you can get now a days in the manors houses bot worth nearly what you think in real market the perceived market we are all fabulously wealthy and have million dollar homes, that is far from reality which part of the problem. Check recent sales and listings I speak the truth.
Anyway this is my last post although every word I have said here is absolutely true I don't want to waste anymore energy on a lost cause. We seem to carry around a badge of courage that being the highest taxes county in the country is a status thing or something, it's ridiculous and doesn't have to be that way. Plenty of examples of communities functioning just fine on a fraction of what it cost for basic services and education here. It is in fact unsustainable and will all come crashing down eventually we just keep kicking can down the road and each budget year get less for and pay more....sounds like a good deal.
Anyway this is no a tarrytown sleepy hollow only issue it is county/ state issue. The police do a good job here and so do teachers we just can't afford them with current bene's structure.
Peace out
Moe Green
9:08 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
This is what happens when old time politics finally catches up to a small time community. For years the old time politicians keep village taxes low in thier areas. They raised the manors and General motors. Salaries for village employees were some of the lowest in Westchester county. Sleepy hollow had the lowest water rates in america at one time. You had people paying ten dollars for a three month water bill? lol
Then time caught up you see ther was no administrator to watch the politicians back then it was like in good fellows. They did what they wanted stole what they wanted and they said F@@k you to anyone who stood in thier way.
DeeplyConcernedabout T-town
9:13 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
To all who quoted Sleepy Hollow police & fire salaries, or argued the high salaries....PLEASE tell me how much goes for "fire" salaries in a volunteer fire department that causes you to act out your frustrations with high salaries? Before you speak out, check your facts. There were some good arguements against the high police salaries though. As to what you pay in taxes, stop! If you didn't like the town, why buy?
ASleepyBoy
9:13 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
Willie, it is painful to read your posts as they are so misguided, it actually hurts.
There is a HUGE difference between public and private sector employees. Private sector bases their salaries on how much the company can afford. Whenever I hire someone new or give a raise or bonus, it is a cost benefit analysis which has to consider whether our revenues for the upcoming year will be enough to justify this expense. In other words, I need to make sure I raise my revenue so my company does not start LOSING money. In the public sector, additional employees do not raise revenue, rather they raise our taxes which is why we are so upset over this.
Also, in our corrupt little villages, the only reason many of employees got their jobs is because they are related to or in bed with someone, NOT because they "chose" the public sector.
Wake up and smell the coffee. Sounds like you can afford some pretty good coffee after reading your self appreciating posts....
Moe Green
9:14 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
Eventually, times changed they hired a village administratorto run the town there was less to steal. The workers now went big time union the Highway went teamsters they finally got parity with the rest of the same same with the cops ect. Before the politico's had thier cronies on the contract teams would give them a benifit maybe a promotion a little extra to see out the other guys. Now it's payup time. People are tired of the big taxes reaganomixs is over the biggies making the money are all gone crashed the economy and ran. How can you blame a guy who took the cop test and got lucky it's the best deal out there if you didn't do it your the sucker.
Taxes will never go down, so cut back the vacations and tone down the fancy cars..lol
Jim Whalen
9:20 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
Just a quick note to Sean! All of the named diseases are in Westchester. And Police Officers are at risk to contract them "and have". YES - HAVE!!!! It's Personnel Matters that are not released. I happen to take strong positions such as yourself about Police Departments in Westchester and Throughout the country, pricing themselves out of a job and their benefits. But the reality is that the job is very dangerous to both physical and mental health. Best way to explain what they go through is in describing a persons "Fight or Flight Response". How many times in your life does your's activate????? These Men and Women's reponse activate often. Sometimes several times a shift. "Real Activation". It takes a it's toll on them, no matter their personality. Did you know the avaerage life expectency of a Police Officer in New York is about 15 years after retirement. I could, but won't go on!
Go Big Blue
10:44 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
Very true. These people dont get it. They dont understand that when their burglar alarm goes off, because the nanny , or housekeeper forgot the code, cops are running to their homes, heart racing, adrenaline sky high, because in their mind " someones home is being burglarized". 911 rings thirty times a day with mis dials, because people dont know how to use a calling card to dial out of the country. Officers have to respond thinking " maybe this isnt a mis dial, someone may be actually held at gun point on the other side of the phone line. The public may see the officers ride around all day and appear "bored", but thank god, the crime level in this village isnt that of Yonkers, Mount Vernon, or even Greenburgh. But , lets not foget about the one time during the shift that puts the officers life in danger.
Go Big Blue
10:45 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
1999 gunman on Valley street at 7:30 in the morning, who killed three people. 2010 possible hostage situation on north Washington. Or the husband who killed his wife on cortlandt street by stabbing her, and then jumped to his death. 2011 The man wanted for a harlem murder of the woman found in a suitecase, was residing at 124 Valley Street when apprehended by NYPD. The numerous domestics through out the entire village. And yes, being subjected to diseases on a daily basis. Yes Officers signed up for this, but dont get mad because they are paid top dollars to do it. Think about the officer the next time you call , that you can probably handle yourself, and if called in to another department would most likely be laughed at and then ignored because they have better things to do. Sleepy Hollow Officers entertain too many bull shi*t calls,and this village is spolied. Just be glad County hasnt taken over yet. Poor mrs. Bellanich wouldnt be able to call and request a car get ticketed for alternante side violation. The Manor Residents would get the parking tickets they rightfully deserve for parking in no parking areas.
Go Big Blue
10:52 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
Oh and lets not forget, the public can not just walk into heaquarters and request to speak to a boss because they recieved a ticket from the parking enforcement officer, or they dont like they way a situation was handled with an officer. There is no longer a open door policy. I say BRING ON COUNTY POLICE. Let the village really see how good they have it right now being spoiled by the current department. Watch the response time for a choking baby, stroke, burglar alarm, fight call TRIPLE. You think the county Pd would have been on Cedar street as fast as the Sleepy Hollow officers were for that large fire. The whole block would have burned down waiting for the county.
Go Big Blue
11:24 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
maybe your right, maybe your not. Still have to face the fact that, that isnt the whole department. Every place of employment has its mis haps. Either way, Sleepy Hollow is spoiled, and hopefully when County takes over, eyes will open up. Oh and better believe their salaries will increase even more.
OverTaxed - Fed up with spending
10:23 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
Some valid rebuttal from Thekidcreol and others, however this post was about a Corrupt and if you know him, small minded fellow. He beat the crap out of his very young girlfriends father. Then framed him. "Quinoy was on duty at the time, but had told Gomez in a phone call to come by HQ to settle a personal score."
So... Is no one concerned that a payoff like this happens yearly here in our tiny little town of 2000 familys?
I'm not arguing that I want to be a cop. Perhaps I could do better than passing on my 3rd or was it 4th try?
No, a convicted person should NOT be bought out, handed a HUGE pension and the few people in the manors and up the hill get handed the bill.
Willi, thought you lived in the inner village? You move recently? Property taxes for an average single family house outside the inner village is now about $30,000.
One reason for falling house prices is buyers look at the taxes and say, thats as much as my current mortgage and go to Queens and pay $4,000 / year for the same square foot house.
So to get back to the first post. Be outraged at payoffs and administrations that make un-affordable commitments.
Our current Mayor and Trustees came in on tax cutting and transparency. I'm still not sure what happened with Dianne our old treasurer's firing. Not happy to still paying be paying for chief Willi. Very unhappy to be paying for Mr Quinoy for the rest of my life here.
Fire Horn Lover
10:54 am on Friday, June 17, 2011
nobody posted the average that police detectives make
Just Curious
12:45 pm on Friday, June 17, 2011
Ya Big blue, really spoiled - i can't get enough of paying these guys - raise my taxes more, spoil me rotten.
Tuth be told the cops are spoiled - six fig salaries for relatively easy days on the force! Sorry if some old batty lady bothers you with dog barking calls, sorry if you get misguided 911 calls - listen, I'll make you a deal - cut your salaries in half, and we won't make you respond to dog calls anymore. Actually, let's scale your pay to make it coommensurate with a national average indexed amount of felony arrests made per pay period. SHPD avg salaries would go from $112k per to under $30k.
that's why we should be happy with the county handling our bs - we pay on a case per case basis, not budget $5 million + a year for a force.
John
1:52 pm on Friday, June 17, 2011
You know. I read most of these posts.... Everyone complaigns about the police force, but when something happens, EVERYONE screams for the police.
When someone breaks into your house... you will scream for the police.
I was in Walgreens near the train station about 4 years ago when the police stormed in with their weapons drawn. the manager had been robbed at gunpoint and forced into the back room. the police went in there risking their lives for another person. That is WORTH the $$ they recieve. Plain and simple.
If you would like to have a civil discussion about the benefit and retirement plans that are offerec, then we can do that. I believe that pension plans should go by the side (as the private sector did this past decade) and a 401K plan with a 5% match should be put in place. this will force employees to actually SAVE. Thats my 2 cents.
Go Big Blue
2:10 pm on Friday, June 17, 2011
Agreed. Check out the article just posted regarding the incident in Tarrytown.
Moe Green
3:38 pm on Friday, June 17, 2011
Basically the village had to buy the guy out. He knew that and his lawyer new that. the previous chief and mayor did not file the paper work correctly and messed up the charges. Basically 12 years of messups caught up with them.
The guy got a good deal take the buyout resign keep your pension and possibly end up on another job or if you don't take it we will fire you on one of the charges anyway. take your pick. The guy made the right choice. Now he keeps his pension and gets his back pay and moves on.
What he did does not matter now.
ASleepyBoy
8:40 pm on Friday, June 17, 2011
Our police definitely have a difficult job. However, regardless of this fact, our village should be run like any business and they should be trying to get the most for their money. Can anyone honestly say that we could not offer half the compensation we currently do and receive anything less in terms of service than we do today? Furthermore, there is still the issue of all the non police employees who DON'T risk their lives and do little more than any day laborer who you can pick up near McDonalds. Provide one good reason why they deserve such high salaries. And saying that salaries in the public sector have finally caught up with the private is ridiculous. The whole draw of the public sector used to be job security, benefits, easy hours and responsibilities at a cost of having a lower overall salary. Now they are receiving both and unless you can answer how we can sustain this, it simply has to stop.
Once again, I challenge any of you to provide one good reason why we should be paying our employees so much when we could easily cut the benefits in half and find people just as competent, if not more, to fill the positions.
Yes, I think it is abhorent that we have police officers who had to take the exam multiple times in order to pass. If there was an exam for babysitters, would you let someone who failed it three times take care of YOUR children??????