Feiner: Ban the Gun Show at County Center

Gun shows at the County Center should be banned, again.

The Westchester County Center, a county taxpayer owned building, will be the location for the next gun show on February 2 and 3, 2013, according to northeastgunshows.com.

Shortly after the Columbine High School shootings--which took the lives of
14 students and a teacher at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado former County Executive Andrew Spano banned gun shows from the county center--calling gun shows at government buildings "inappropriate". 

After County Executive Rob Astorino defeated Mr. Spano - Mr. Astorino revoked the ban and allowed the gun shows to resume at the county center. When the gun shows were reinstated admission was $11- with $1.50 going to the county.

In light of the school shooting which - I am calling on the County Executive and Board of Legislators to ban gun and weapon shows from the county center.  Citizens have a right to bear arms and a right to purchase guns from reputable dealers. But, there is nothing in the constitution that requires governments to allow gun sales at government buildings.  If north east gun shows.com wants to have a gun show in Westchester - they should contract with a private facility, not a government owned building. 

Among the weapons being sold at the gun show: firearms, knives, militaria military style weapons. An article in the June 20,2010 issue of the NY Daily News indicated that some vendors "sold books and magazines with nazi names. At least two sold stickers bearing confederate flags and swastikas."   There haven't been additional reports since 2010 of nazi memorabilia being sold at the county center gun shows.

99% of the people who purchase guns at gun shows are honest, decent, law abiding citizens. All we need is one crazy like the school gunman whose family obtains a gun legally and starts shooting innocent people.

_ PAUL FEINER, Greenburgh Town Supervisor

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Dan Seidel December 18, 2012 at 02:35 AM
White Plains is a target - the old AT&T microwave tower - was one of 12 early warning stations of the east coast - warn of Russian ICBMs - we have cache! CHAMP was just tested - it works (allegedly). interesting weapon.
Dan Seidel December 18, 2012 at 02:41 AM
Lead bullets foul the barrels - and unless you are shooting wad cutters, they are yesterday's news. I use BJHP or BFMJ (brass jacketed hollow points or full metal jackets). Will you guys please read up on the Second Amendment - the right to bear arms was meant for people hunting of the oppressive govt type. and the militia is THE PEOPLE and NOT the National Guard; the right to bear arms is not dependent upon forming a militia - it is a natural right - a right one is born with -independent of forming a militia - read the debates, statements, letters, Federalist Papers - it was meant to preserve Liberty against Tyranny.
Dan Seidel December 18, 2012 at 02:48 AM
you a nazi or something? brownshirt? union thug? Go to Eurabia to live. All what you seek above is over there... Shooo! skiddaddle!! vamoose! scram! Git!
Don Pachner December 18, 2012 at 02:51 AM
Jenga, coming from you, I take that as a badge of honor! Yes, I am a lost cause to the narrow minded, the uncompassionate and those who feel they need to build their sense of self esteem by claiming others simply cannot understand your truths. If that is the fact, then I think you need to reevaluate your truths! While my government has nuclear arms and I have none, I am not complaining about that. If you are concerned about a tyrannical government, I suggest you take a vacation someplace where tyrants rule to experience that first hand. The horrors you mention are not happening on US soil,. Personally, I give thanks on Thanksgiving that we are lucky to live in a land of freedom, free of war within our borders. And, yes, I know enough US history to not put anyone down as ignorant without considering what they have to say.
Don Pachner December 18, 2012 at 02:57 AM
SleepyBoy, sorry, I simply don't have time for this mindless banter anymore. Yes, you are correct that we have that language in our constitution, and it could be amended (I have read talk this week about doing that;) however, it is clear that assault weapons and large ammunition magazines create a public danger that must be balanced with the right to bear arms, for what it is worth today. Someone on this blog did mention that they do not consider a semi-automatic rifle with a 30 round clip to be an assault weapon because it is not fully automatic...I disagree, and so do most of the news reports that I have read online.
Don Pachner December 18, 2012 at 03:06 AM
Racman, that's a good list of grass roots objectives. To smellypants and Jenga, please come up with a thoughtful response. Again, you simply assert you know better than the person you disagree with. Perhaps you can think about how you will respond to these serious grass roots efforts to promote gun control and to stem gun violence. It is coming soon, and you will not be able to stop it. Racman is not the only person willing to go to these lengths, and they no longer will tolerate inaction by Congress.
James Bankhart December 18, 2012 at 03:10 AM
It would appear that you have a better chance of being raped in Sweden than shot I the U.S. Both are violent crimes. At 46.5 per 100,000 members of the population, Sweden far surpasses Iceland, which comes next with 36, and England and Wales after that with 26. At the same time, Sweden’s 10 percent conviction rate of rape suspects is one of Europe’s lowest.
Bjorn Olsson December 18, 2012 at 03:30 AM
James, this seems off-topic, unless you hope to discredit the low gun violence rate by saying that the rape rate is high. But why not? You are not more likely to be raped in Sweden (unless you run into Julian Assange, it seems), but the way the statistics are kept and the rate at which women report the crime makes the numbers look higher than other countries. And the conviction rate is the highest in Europe according to the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19592372 Not that I am particularly well versed in this topic, unlike the new US authorities on the matter, mostly of the GOP conviction.
Nummy December 18, 2012 at 03:37 AM
A liberal is just a conservative that hasn't been mugged yet.
Hugh Marshall December 18, 2012 at 03:38 AM
Once we get 9 progressive Supreme Court justices -- and we will, within a generation, because you'll never win another election -- it's over for you right-wing wackos. All over.
Hugh Marshall December 18, 2012 at 03:43 AM
It was bad enough before the election, with all your racist birther rants. Now that you've been slapped down good, you're back with all this new conspiracy garbage. You are one sad little man.
dita von struedel van trappyodel December 18, 2012 at 03:45 AM
Hugh - I do hope you are happy with the damage your "progressive" ideas have already wrought on this country... no sense of right or wrong, no individual responsibility, no morals, no laws, no core beliefs but one ... government will provide for one and all. I wish you and your kind would leave the country and I pray that you are wrong - although I concede you may well be right - I hope you feel good about yourself.
Hugh Marshall December 18, 2012 at 03:56 AM
WE should leave? No, smelly -- we won, and you lost. Maybe YOU should leave. 332-206, smelly. Not even close.
dita von struedel van trappyodel December 18, 2012 at 04:04 AM
Hugh - you guys lost big in 2010 and we won the US House this time around just like you won presidency, senate no change. You will lose big in the midterms. I am glad that "progressives" like you identify with Obama - you prove my points for me. You must be a loser to hold the views you do.
Dan Seidel December 18, 2012 at 04:05 AM
Hugh, you are a joy to have as a neighbor. I know I can count on you in a pinch.
Dan Seidel December 18, 2012 at 04:15 AM
interlude: a little gun porn: http://youtu.be/DxNrX-9P--0
Demelzabunny December 18, 2012 at 05:24 AM
Our citizens DO NOT need to possess guns - of any type - in the 21st century. We are not being persecuted by Great Britain and planning an armed insurrection against them. If the Founding Fathers were here and witnessed all that has gone on in the name of "the right to bear arms," I'm sure they'd be appalled and agree that the 2nd Amendment should be repealed ASAP.
shakemdown December 18, 2012 at 05:52 AM
i'm not a gun person, but i have one because my job requires me to carry one. the thing that is wrong here, is that guns don't kill people, guns in the hands of sick minded people kill people .
Racman63 December 18, 2012 at 12:07 PM
Astorino just revived his political career post Sandy in my estimation. This Lib/Dem will remember his bold action when he's up for re-election. Thank You C.E. Astorino for banning that despicable show (and for probably avoiding a large protest outside the C.C. on what would have been the weekend of the show)
BG7 December 18, 2012 at 02:14 PM
America - a 1st world country with a 3rd world gun mentality.Just plain embarrassing. Guns empower people who are otherwise losers to become ones.
Dan Seidel December 18, 2012 at 02:34 PM
http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/athens.htm got 15 minutes to read a bit and watch a short vid?
Demelzabunny December 19, 2012 at 05:42 AM
This discussion puts me in mind of a scene in the movie "Witness," when the Amish grandfather shows the grandson Harrison Ford's handgun, and says that a gun's only purpose is to kill. This young man would not have known guns as well as he did had his mother not put them in his hands.
James Adnaraf December 28, 2012 at 06:13 PM
MSNBC is an opinion outlet.
Demelzabunny December 29, 2012 at 03:08 AM
Smelly, if you want to see a "woman" with a suspect body, take a look at your own Ann Coulter. She really gives me the creeps. And she gets her jollies by saying provocative (often cruel) things just to see people's reactions. A real psycho. And James, MSNBC is MY opinion outlet: the voice of reason in a sea of fascists.
Demelzabunny December 29, 2012 at 03:16 AM
You are obviously ill-informed (or perhaps uneducated), because if you were well-informed, you'd know that the word "liberal" comes from the Latin for "free." Isn't that what we all cherish in this country? I guess not reactionaries like you. If you want to go back to what you consider "the good old days," try living in Russia or China (dictatorships, as they ALWAYS have been, no matter what the corrupt leadership called them). It is convenient to blame all the ills of society on one group; "Oh, it must be them! It couldn't be us!" Limited, uninformed thinking at best, fascism at worst. And simply not true: I am a liberal, but I am NOT immoral or irrational. If you call caring about others irrational, so be it. Sticks and stones...
Demelzabunny December 29, 2012 at 03:22 AM
Ah, yes, a return to the "good old days," like when blacks had to ride in the back of the bus.
Demelzabunny December 29, 2012 at 03:27 AM
My liberal mother was mugged on her way home from teaching at a South Jamaica school in the 1970's, but she didn't, like a typical conservative say, "Oh! These low lives! They're a bunch of scum, undeserving of our help!" She ALWAYS remained a staunch supporter of liberal goals and projects. So much for your theory.
Demelzabunny December 29, 2012 at 03:32 AM
OMG, I was wondering when someone was going to suggest a march on Washington. It worked against the Vietnam War and racism. Isn't a cause to stop more innocent adults and children from getting killed worth a march? And I really want to go on record as saying I abhor ALL gun violence, including that which allows testosterone-fueled men (and misguided women: honestly, what are you thinking???) to go out and cause innocent animals to suffer. Why? I really can't answer that question. Hunting should be banned, too. There's no reason for it.
Demelzabunny December 29, 2012 at 03:38 AM
Another ignorant oaf's opinion! Well, if you were paying attention in history class, you'd know that Sweden did NOT assist the Nazis during WW II. And they are to be commended for their kind help for survivors of the camps after the war. Sweden: now there's a society that actually values its citizens' quality of life. We'd do well in this country to follow their lead in many areas of society and government.
Demelzabunny December 29, 2012 at 03:45 AM
And I believe that it is the reactionary ideas professed by fascists like you that is preventing this country from being the best it can be. You don't thing the role of government is to help its citizens? OK: let's start with not providing all anti-progressives their Social Security checks That's save us as s**tload of money. Or how about not having gov't-run education; let's just have private schools: the rich can educate their children, and the poor can encourage theirs to sell fast food. And of course, we don't need a police force (what a drain on gov't coffers that is!): we can all have guns and police ourselves, put out our own fires, repair our roads, make sure our infrastructure is secure, so bridges don't fall down when we drive over them, etc. You can't get something for nothing. Taxes are a necessary evil of society and all modern governments. Otherwise, you'd have anarchy (maybe that's what these Hatfields and McCoys would prefer.)


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