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Hudson Harbor: Who's Buying, What's Next?

The recession has helped not hurt this complex, growing rapidly on Tarrytown's riverfront.

Interestingly enough our national longterm economic slump may have actually helped sell units at the fast-expanding Hudson Harbor complex.

Paul Janos, head of sales and marketing for the development quickly changing the riverfront face of Tarrytown – and soon Sleepy Hollow – said most of the existing tenants there have downsized themselves here from larger homes, most of them coming from elsewhere in Westchester. He also added that most are empty-nesters whose kids are grown (and not taking up space in our crowded school system).

I met with Janos last week to get an update on all the activity between train tracks and the Hudson, where Carriage Houses seem to sprout up daily. Neither snow nor Hurricane Sandy slows down these workers – about 100 of them in total, said Janos – who are halfway through with the project so far.

In what is known as the Stone Lodge behind Lighthouse Ice Cream, Crabtree-Kittle House is building out 6,000 square feet of first-floor space for a unique offshoot of their popular Chappaqua restaurant.

What is being called Rivermarket promises: a wine and spirits shop, and a fresh market with “a little of everything,” Janos said, and a bar/kitchen. This is all slated for an early 2013 opening.

Upstairs on the second level are 20 condos, all of which are sold.

Adjacent to these and also part of Phase 1 development were the townhomes, all slightly doing their own thing but together forming a little neighborhood of houses that go for $1 million and up. Of these, 36 have sold, said Janos.

Then there’s the Club House. Riverstone Yoga has taken space downstairs in the fancy barnlike building near the tenant’s gym. Upstairs, there's an open lofty space, this time of year complete with roaring fire warming a cozy sitting area. Hudson Harbor residents can reserve this for parties or just enjoy it with their friends. On this night, there was a a windows company setting up tables for their cocktail party.

On the deck there is the outdoor pool, which was something of a sore spot when it opened for nontenant Tarrytowners who remember that public pool they were once promised from Greenwich, CT-based developer Joe Cotter of National RE/sources.

“We’re in talks with the village,” said Janos, telling me to stay tuned on that aquatic center. “It’s in the works.”

Village Administrator Michael Blau wouldn't specify the content of these talks, only saying this about several executive sessions the Board of Trustees recently held with Hudson Harbor on the agenda: "we are in discussions with National RE/sources about a number of outstanding issues."

From the pool deck, you see every corner of the development clearly – under 28 acres. Cotter is certainly a busy man in a busy firm. In addition to this, there are simultaneous projects in Edgewater, NJ (similar to this) and Yonkers (commercial).

One of the carriage homes was moonlighting last month as America’s Dream Home (so dubbed by Westchester Magazine) and was completely outfitted and perfectly appointed by designers.

Usually at parties everyone congregates to the kitchen, but on this tour, we were all gathered around the toilet, whose lid magically lifts when you’re approaching. The bathtub filled from a hole all the way up on the ceiling (which miraculously didn’t splash out of the tub, designed apparently just deep enough). Then there was the TV built seamlessly into the mirror. I wondered: does it fog? There was a TV in every corner so you’d never be alone. For all the luxuries ($1.5 million worth if you want it all as is), the place is very green, as is everything in the development.

Janos described a new way of living, “smart growth”: homeowners within walking distance of all the amenities of Tarrytown, just feet away from the train, they hardly need a car. All the buildings are LEED certified, “not that greenwash where you throw on some bamboo flooring,” Janos said. The workers are local and all the materials probably come from within a 500 mile radius, Janos said.

There was a New York Times article in 2009 called "Developers in the Age of Caution" featuring this complex in its earliest days.

"Hudson Harbor, a condominium in Tarrytown, has been altered in midstream to include amenities like elevators and geothermal heating. Prices have also been lowered," the article stated.

While the prices may have dropped some and amenities upped, sales and the building schedule still have not been as speedy as they may have hoped. Still, Janos said, crediting the offerings of Tarrytown itself, the location and the quality construction, sales have been good.

Hurricane Sandy hit here not a bit. “Nothing whatsoever,” said Janos of any damage or problems to land or buildings from the storm. Though river water surged all the way past the development to Village Hall, it stayed in the train parking lot and never touched Hudson Harbor. “Our grade is a little higher here and our electric is underground,” Janos said.

There will be more Carriage Houses to come in each corner of a quadrangle, the center of which will be “like Gramercy Park” in NYC, Janos said. All of the Carriage Houses should be done by spring.

Next to Lookout South there will be Lookout North, similarly styled to these glassy condos. In Lookout South there are 42 units, 30 of which are already sold. The foundation of the North building will begin soon, as many of these projects hit different stages simultaneously.

In total, this development will have 238 units, 98 done so far. Prices of units soon or already on the market: from $500,000 to $1.5 million in the Lookout, $940,000 to $1.5 million in the Carriage Houses.

On the far end of the lot, the anomalous building that is now the sales office won’t be necessary once everything is built and sold, nor will a sales manager. The future role of this building is undetermined, Janos said, though it will likely be “some kind of amenity.” Stay tuned.

The Castle Oil project in Sleepy Hollow is separate but will mimic the look (and height) of the Lookout building and ultimately connect one RiverWalk to the next. Contracts are in the works for that now, Janos said. For now, residents can enjoy a bare space and a better view than those green tanks afforded.

Then there are the cranes busy dredging the edge of the GM site, whose future development will dwarf the magnitude of Hudson Harbor if it ever gets going. 

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DeeplyConcernedabout T-town December 3, 2012 at 02:55 pm
Another broken promise by Cotter & Janos & Blau. Will not see any public pool for a long time, if ever! They got what they wanted w/o giving back as promised.
michael December 3, 2012 at 04:37 pm
WHERE IS THE AQUATIC CENTER MR JANOS ???? too bad the storm sandy didnt take everything away , I will be getting my river views again ...
joy December 3, 2012 at 04:49 pm
Thanks for the update Krista - very helpful.
Bruce Buckley December 3, 2012 at 04:58 pm
Wow! Automated toilet seats! And meanwhile no details on what the talks between Hudson Harbor's developer and Mr. Blau are all about. Why the secrecy?
Robert W Fischer December 3, 2012 at 05:53 pm
Just an ugly eyesore on the Hudson. Would not live there even if I had the money
Gargamel December 3, 2012 at 06:54 pm
we were sold down the river by a lot of people!
Robert Solari December 3, 2012 at 07:14 pm
Its a big improvement from 10 years ago. I like the change and look forward to seeing Sleepy Hollow do the same .
DeeplyConcernedabout T-town December 3, 2012 at 07:48 pm
Robert, An improvement built on lies & false promises. That is not beneficial to those of us who live here.
Krista Madsen (Editor) December 3, 2012 at 07:54 pm
I enjoy the RiverWalk now almost daily myself. Others?
wanda December 3, 2012 at 09:42 pm
Why the secrecy? Did I not see Mr Blau's name ! or is that the name of the toilet ? "excuss me I have to go to th Blau " How's the boatmotel going " I see the new parking lot ?
remington steele December 3, 2012 at 10:07 pm
having grown up in this town I feel this is a horrible addition. I ask myself constantly who would be so stupid as to spend this kind of money only to live on top of 250 other people, with the trains going by and blowing their horns 18 hours a day and with all the fumes from the bridge coming right into their bedrooms? I suspect some of the stupidest millionaires in new york. Yes they are nice inside and out but that land could have been used for far better things. and then to add all the politics and side deals and empty promises to us life-long townies on top of it all. no heads will roll from this corruption folks. carry on there is nothing to see here.
DeeplyConcernedabout T-town December 3, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Limited access & egress over the antiquated bridge ramp. How about public safety for those who must fight through the commuter traffic? Bad weather, bad traffic and you will be stuck there waiting to get in or out. Drving around through Sleepy Hollow is a nice alternative. River walk is only a small light at the end of the tunnel. Does that make the whole project viable? Promises made and not kept. Politics as usual. No matter which village.
Ethel December 4, 2012 at 01:14 am
I think the buildings are quite tasteful, as is the whole development, with the Riverwalk, new tennis courts, etc. Certainly a lot more pleasing to the eye that Icabod's landing. And lets remember, this was all a bit of a wasteland before. I believe more will need to be done to mitigate traffic, especially once it's all sold and the commercial pieces are up and running. And especially as TT is moaning about traffic from the GM development. And yes, the aquatics center, or some other make-good from the developers, such as some turf fields for the sports teams, needs to happen.
wanda December 4, 2012 at 02:46 am
Quite tasteful? Someone pass Ethel some grey poupon please. How is the appeal going in the Tarrytown v Sleepy Hollow lawsuit ?
Ethel December 4, 2012 at 01:57 pm
I did grow up here Truth...and architecturally, I find them quite tasteful. So shoot me.
Krista Madsen (Editor) December 4, 2012 at 02:19 pm
No word yet on if they will go through the appeal. They have some months to decide.
wanda December 4, 2012 at 09:40 pm
Hey Ethel that waste land provided many people who are lifelong residents with an income.Also you must be connected with the current Board as you are bashing Icabods Landing .Hudson Harbor reminds me of the movie Judgement night. should of keeped County Asphalt at least we could have fished and had a view.Also could someone buy a weed wacker for the River Walk."If it looks like a WEED IT IS A WEED "
Aintthatascam December 4, 2012 at 10:11 pm
There is a big hypocrisy in Tarrytown. Politically, most (if not all) of the board members agree with global warming and that other junk, yet the continue allowing the building of MCMansions and other projects. Look at that mess at 620 South Broadway, all for more property tax revenue. You think they care? Mr. Blau will likely be playing golf in Florida, enjoying his union retirement while Tarrytowners deal with more traffic, pollution and noise.
I can't believe that the riverfront project was wood framed, wait until the river rises during another storm or tsunami. Think it's not a coincidence that the former Mayor be employed by the builder of the riverfront project?
Ethel December 4, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Wanda. Sorry if I feel that architecturally pleasing design (to me) is better than an industrial wasteland. I'm not connected with any current or past board whatsoever. Just an observer. I share many other frustrations that you do regarding the conduct of the board of both villages. I remain very concerned, for example, about the infrastructure implications of all this development. But that doesn't stop me appreciating good design.
DeeplyConcernedabout T-town December 4, 2012 at 11:20 pm
Blau is not union, that is why he gets the extra boost. Not available to the rank & file worker. He is not worth the 'bennies' he is getting. Too much.
DeeplyConcernedabout T-town December 4, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Also, let's stop commenting on who grew up here & who didn't. Doesnot equate into the subject. We are all entitled to our opinions. As long as we are fair & just. Taste is different, and creates the world we live in.......together!
wanda December 5, 2012 at 02:55 am
Ethel
That wasteland Paid more Taxes than Hudson Harbors let alone the Sales Tax created by the Companies that employed hundreds of people.County Asphalt,Barrier Oil,Franks Fuel,Verizon,Ny Times,Penske,N and W ,Karl Sterling,Castle Oil and a lot more I don't know. Also how many kids were sent to our Schools from the Industrial Wasteland Ethel ? Cost $29,000 per student a year .
Patricia December 7, 2012 at 02:21 am
Why are people so against any development in this village? They believe that no one else should move here and if you do move here you are labeled a "carpet bagger". I hope they build more expensive housing on the west side, and believe me they will.
Ethel December 7, 2012 at 01:46 pm
Wanda, I merely said I like the designs. You can mock me all you want for the opinion. I know nothing of the tax implications of the new development, I didn't raise that point, but if you have hard number comparisons, I'm sure we'd all love to see them. The list of businesses you list are a great example of the kinds of businesses that can blot a landscape and don't need to be on the riverfront.
Willie Lester February 28, 2013 at 10:01 pm
They dont need an aquatic center. The developers should take that money and put in two Turf fields. One at WI the other at Sleepy Hollow. We should be ashamed of the fields our kids play thier sports on
DeeplyConcernedabout T-town March 1, 2013 at 01:48 am
Willie,
As usual, you miss the point. Promises have been made and broken. Once they get the C/O, all promises are history. Happens way to often. As to turf fields, aren't the fields already turf? Do you mean astro turf or something similar? The school district can only do so much to the fields, too much use to allow improvements. Also, the school taxes are already too high. What do we cut back to pay for the improvements to the fields?
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